Heartiste’s 1 pretty lie

Some are not going to enjoy hearing this, but needs to be said.

It is not that Heartiste outright lies. I have previously heralded Heartiste as the greatest shitlord of our age. Which I still stand behind. But he is not fully honest.

Heartiste lies by omission. What is the omission, you ask? The omission is that 80% of Heartiste’s male readers are born a beta, will die a beta. Heartiste does not tell them this, in fact, Heartiste tells them the opposite: most men are too stupid and low-T to get this, but you too can be an asshole with a shit-eating grin drowning in pussy! Here’s how to get nudes and bang that hot chick in the bar! Stay tuned with Heartiste, the Trumpocalypse is on its way!

Heartiste sells the fantasy of blog-canned alpha. He makes his readers feel like badboys by association, but never acknowledges that the majority of his readers are not badboys, will never be badboys.

He is making a sales pitch. And judging from the many comments he gets, a pretty effective sales pitch. But not the right one. What is the right pitch?

We may cut a knife between NRx and the Alt-Right, and say Heartiste is on the Alt-Right, I am on NRx. Which I think is fairly accurate. But we can do slightly better.

The best use of the knife is to cut between Jim & Heartiste. Heartiste says you too can be shitlord, Jim says society must be realigned so you too can pretend to be a shitlord. The difference is crucial.

In Jim’s view, ordinary men will never be arrogant, violent and murderous enough to wet women’s panties. Women’s view of male status is simply too harsh, like the view of a child living among cannibals. Women want a man who commands other men, who shoots death-rays out his eyes and who will knife someone for giving him a wrong glance. In short: women want to fuck men who routinely kick puppies out of boredom.

This is the crucial difference between Jim and Heartiste: Heartiste says men can learn to enjoy kicking puppies to get laid. Jim says men are dancing monkeys pretending to enjoy kicking puppies because they want to get laid. Jim is right, Heartiste is wrong.

Thus, Jim’s solution is better than Heartiste. Heartiste’s solution is to enjoy a poolside view of the decline with beautiful women while fanboys cheer him on. Jim’s solution is to make those fanboys high status: reintroduce patriarchy, make women soft property (first to their father, then their husbands) and ban careers for women until after marriage & children.

If that pitch sounds too abstract, imagine it like this: you are in charge of your house, your wife and your children. Your friends, your colleagues, your family and your in-laws all agree with you that you, not your girl, are in charge.

In this world, women suddenly feel attracted to all men, not just the Heartiste-types, because we have realigned societal incentives as to make all males high status.

Heartiste gives you tools to get laid in the age of thots.
Jim gives you tools to end of the age of thots.

I’d like to live in a society that is not dying, so I prefer Jim.

18 thoughts on “Heartiste’s 1 pretty lie

  1. I am with you bro but what if heartiste is right meaning that when socioeconomically conditions get Brazilian the evolutionary right thing individually is to play cad not dad.

    Sure it results in lower civilisational models but individually you replicate your genes.

    What if trad guys a larping themselves out of the gene pool. Where are these women that will play housewife with them and how many are they.

    Just some thoughts…I like for the Jim side of the argument to be true

    1. Yes, we have no choice but to be a cad or at least pretend to be a cad. But we will be outcadded by natural cads.

      I know an African guy who has 5 kids by 3 different women. His latest girl just threw him out of the house for the 2nd time.

      I don’t believe most white males enjoy living like that. Lots of stupid drama involved. Right solution is somewhere in between cad and trad; the cad-trad life.

      1. I dunno. I am outside hajnal, therefore I think it was always the natural to be dad-chad, preach patriarchy in public, fuck whatever is moving, confess your sins, repeat.

        this virtue-signaling-familial-values thing is just semitic brain conditioning. we europeans can pretend to follow it but continue our thing, like with christianity.

        these family values thing comes back to us from all the protestant weirdo sects that escaped to america…playing hollier than you….and is therefore dysfuntional, although they have the amish there…so I dont know really.

        but yeah 5 kids with 3 women is a whole different level….they do outcompete us.


        1. >this virtue-signaling-familial-values thing is just semitic brain conditioning

          Read about early medieval Germanic pagan tribes. Both pagan and Christian Romans were at awe at their chastity.

  2. I suggest that both are right. Most of the commenters here see what the problem is but really have no idea how to change it. I know how to change this with two steps.

    1. Who is it that is the primary motivator that has brought about this Apocalypse? Who is it that pushes the rules on our society that causes so much destruction. Who spends massive amounts of money to push this evil system on us? Think. Who rules? I think you know and the only method to change this is to get rid of them. Push them out. Allow them no say and no part in our society. Deport them. If we can do this peacefully it would be great but they must go no matter what.
    2, Marriage 3.0. Marriage 2.0 is where we are today. Marriage 3.0 will go back to Marriage 0.0. Not even 1.0. The rules are, no no fault divorce, if divorced and there is no fault then the kids go with the primary person bringing in the dough. Mainly the Man. No or very little payments after divorce. Divorce is handled in normal courts not estrogen packed family courts. Marriage 3.0 should cost. At least a couple thousand bucks. Call it the Platinum Marriage or whatever jingle you can make up to make Women think it’s better. Anyone who wants a normal no-fault cheap Marriage can have one so we’re not imposing on anyone. Men should refuse a cheap marriage and just not get married unless they are protected by Marriage 3.0.

    This can be passed by the normal legislature and will be hard to fight against because, marriage for ever, is hard to demonize and imposes on no one. You want a crappy marriage you can have it cheap.

    1. 1. If it’s jews you’re talking about, I’m with general NRx consensus, which is that Jews make the problem worse but did not create it. The creators were white leftists.
      2. I don’t understand how you have a no fault divorce if you ban no fault divorces. Otherwise seems sensible to me, if a coup-complete solution.

      1. Two sets of marriage license. Old school(new in this case 3.0) and regular no-fault divorce like we have now. Pick you’re own poison. No one can legitimately complain about others marriages if someone picks old school(3.0). Although they will but it will make them look like control freaks which they are. Choice. If Women want Men to bear the burden then we go back to where the Man gets the kids unless he’s, proven in court with normal court procedures, an evil prick that deserves to lose his kids. I think this would massively incentivize Men to get married. I’m not bashing marriage just the present contract that prevails, so change it for those that want it. The rest can take their chances.

        1. Market it for rich people like any other newfangled contraption and once it catches popularity, the sleeping masses will follow without thinking as is their nature, eventually all the old shit will become out of style even with the bottom 30% like horse carriage or telegraph. What is your marketing and distribution strategy though? old marriage is an old meme, with negative connotations for both genders now ala feminism and manosphere, so a new meme is required rather it’s more likely to gain traction without piranhas biting at your ankles, it has to seem like the new cool thing to do. It shouldn’t be hard because they’ve successfully figured out how to market a new cool thing to do can include inviting a nigger into your bed and record him impregnating your wife, or spending outrageous amount of money on poisons of all flavors and colors, to ingest. It can’t be that hard to introduce something that is good for them as long as you figure out how to meme it right, maybe you just reverse psychology it like instead of acting like it’s the moral thing to do, appeal to the mob’s innate degeneracy kinda like with bdsm how submitting to a man appeals to a woman’s degeneracy, not her morality. What is our new meme captain?

          1. Old marriage is a dead meme, for it is controlled by people who want to see us humiliated and dead.

            The gist of the new meme is: it is cool to own a woman. That’s it. You have your own girl, she supports you publicly, keeps herself in shape for you, bears your children? High status. Cool.

            On the other hand, guys with fat, grumpy women that complain about them in public and end up leaving them with their children? Low status. Losers.

            The eternal bachelor or MGTOW is slightly less lower status, but still frowned upon.

            Owning a woman is as enjoyable for a man as it is for a woman to own a cat. It’s what all the cool kids do.

          2. @alf When you said supports you publicly the first thought that came to mind is that she’s the one who pays the bills “supports”. It actually can feed into the strong independent woman idea I actually know a few women like this, not super attractive by any means but they’re loyal towards their upper beta if only because they can’t do better. Honestly whenever I think about it the more wrong male provision sounds to me, she’s not your child she’s your bitch. If she was a dog she’d be chasing for geese for you to bring back, likewise a good owned woman, who is naturally more suited for the cubical work of modern society, is a good bitch bringing back the goose, then since she’s tired of being engaged and in control and “strong” at the job can revert to her natural submissive state as a woman serving a man, even though said job she’s doing the same just in a different way. That sounds like a hard sell for a modern woman tbh but then again I’ve seen them drink their own liquid shit for money.

            Call me a sexist bastard but there’s something deeply arousing about actual female slavery. I’ve considered becoming a pimp before and I’ve never gone through with it I value my personal freedom a lot and women are usually counter to that freedom, I’ve heard that the street term for someone who gets funded by a woman is called a mac which is like a step below a pimp, I mean that’s not a bad deal if you ask me. If women’s primal instinct is to be conquered by a man, then male provider model is by its very definition doomed to fail, it’s unnatural a man is supposed to be following his heart, developing his passion whatever it is, even if it’s flying the world’s best kite or studying as a mathlete for 20 years straight, but wage slavery in a corporate machine is simply unnatural for a man. Lions have it set up right, male’s job is basically to be modern woman and be pretty with nice hair, the women do the hunting and bring food to him, not that he can hunt anyway he gets tired from being so sexy and important all the time. If being cooped up at home is so controlling and sexist, then she can have a confident man who owns her from the home and dispatch her like a king sends his serfs or soldiers, sends her out to fetch his meal fresh caught in the wild, then gives her some dick as if it was a dog treat to reward her. Everyone benefits right? Like this is literally got to be her perfect fantasy of a man who is so above her that she waits on him hand and foot and even goes out and picks the cotton for his profit. Even better if it means male brains free to do something other than mind numbing slave labor I know a lot of good dudes that are rotting away 9-5.

            Now how do you get these owned females into the hands of the right men? Or maybe that’s jumping the gun step 1 is to make it cool for a woman to be a consensual slave to the point where it becomes common as well as for her to actually take it seriously, even to feel like a defective woman if she isn’t truly owned and enslaved. How can something like this even be spread, what is the marketing plan? How do you get a woman to take a deal that is in direct opposition to the whore of babylon and honestly sounds like nature in perfect working order lmao. It has to be a sign of status for women in the way that bagging an athlete for marriage is considered high status, otherwise no shit any man would want to own a woman that isn’t useless, they’ll follow wherever the women go anyway so it has to be targeted at the women specifically. How do you target the women with new memes? Even the trump train of right wing those women were more like the old model marriage because of how good a deal it was and still is for them, I don’t see it going anywhere and it’s been going on for years now.

            The power flow always lies in the women, she has to believe in the meme herself and others will always follow. If I speak of it I’ll be mocked but if the woman next to me openly endorses it herself, tells them how she’s the lucky one and is happier than she’s ever been and how she’s finally found her rightful place in life etc, other men will wonder if this limp fucker has a bitch like this why shouldn’t I, and the inflation begins and the women have to start upping the ante automatically because the first one that does gets best pickings and the most trust in good will. The later she is to the train the more degenerate shit she has to do to prove her authenticity that’s the pattern I’ve noticed in the bdsm community.

            So what’s the marketing strategy? I’ve said it earlier I think marketing is what controls the tide, need to combat all the cuck porn and the muslim propaganda and talking about how cool it is for a woman to submit to a white man and how human shaped gorillas are meant to be slaves and nothing else lmao. Do you hire chinese clickbot farms to flood social media with views and likes and shares about female slavery? Regardless because of male thirst I mean we’ve seen that even with feminism making most women into porkers and single moms they’ll still pay for it so it’s gotta target the women. It should actually be an easier task since that’s how they destroyed the west to begin with is through poisoning the women with shit memes like classy ladies smoke cigarette sticks full of rat poison.

          3. With showing public support I mean showing public support: that she shows you her love in public, that she talks good of you to other people, that she publicly acknowledges your high status as a man who takes good care of her. Which she loves to do if you indeed take good care of her.

            Pimps are low-status, they live in constant fear of their women leaving them while needing to bluff that they don’t care, which is what naturally happens when you make your livelihood dependent on women instead of dependent on yourself.

            Women crave to be owned by men, in fact import hordes of muslim men in the hopes of being owned by them when their own men fail to do so.

            I do not think the term slave covers it well, although it is not too bad either. I have little reference to what it’s like to own a slave.

            It is more like owning a pet. But it most accurately is simply owning a woman.

            Our marketing strategy is to show, not tell. When our men take their women and kids out, they are well-behaved and happy, while other men are publicly humiliated by their wives and children. Recall the military man on dr Phil who locked his bedroom door at night in fear of his daughter: loser, cuck, idiot.

            My occupation is not high status at all, but whenever I hang with men who are high-status in occupation and their women, I always out-status them, because their women will bitch on them, while my woman will shower me with love and affection.

          4. So you show her you’re high status by owning her, and then show your friends your high status when she tells everyone how you own her.

            I’ve had a few relationships where it was basically an ownership situation but I always end up getting turned off by her and then don’t wanna deal with her anymore. I don’t really try to pick up women at all tbh I get annoyed by retards trying to amog me, and her trying to shit test me. I’m not a stereotypical hollywood alpha in appearance or demeanor so people shit test me a lot. Sometimes I have the patience for it other times I don’t. Maybe I’m doing it wrong. Maybe women get scared of me because I’m fucking ruthless sometimes lmao. It honestly takes balls to be able to have an extended conversation with me.

            Send me your book on game yo.

          5. A woman will not literally tell everyone you own her since she is (probably rightly) afraid it will lower her status and make her seem weird.

            At the same time, if you own her, it will shine through in every other aspect of her behavior.

            I’ve enough proofreaders already, but thanks for your offer.

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